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		<title>Concealed Carry Justifies Detention and Disarmament</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A Federal judge holds that carrying a firearm concealed justifies detention and disarmament!</p>
<p>Northern District of Georgia federal judge Thomas W. Thrash Jr. ruled today that carrying a firearm on MARTA justifies forcible detention by the police, in a federal civil rights lawsuit filed over the half hour long detention and disarmament of GeorgiaCarry.Org member Christopher Raissi.</p>
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<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3192" title="usa" src="http://www.geekswithguns.com/wp-content/usa.gif" alt="usa" width="69" height="66" />Northern District of Georgia federal judge Thomas W. Thrash Jr. ruled today that carrying a firearm on MARTA justifies forcible detention by the police, in a federal civil rights lawsuit filed over the half hour long detention and disarmament of <a href="http://www.georgiacarry.org/" target="_blank">GeorgiaCarry.Org</a> member Christopher Raissi.</p>
<blockquote><p>Judge Thrash also held that merely carrying a concealed firearm justifies detention and disarmament.  He wrote in his opinion that &#8220;possession of a firearms license is an affirmative defense to, not an element of, the crimes of boarding [MARTA] with a concealed weapon and carrying a concealed weapon.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>After Raissi concealed his handgun and started walking to toward the MARTA station, he had committed all of the acts required for the crime of boarding with a concealed weapon and the crime of carrying a concealed weapon.<br />
As a result, Judge Thrash concluded that the officers had reasonable suspicion that Raissi was committing two crimes.</p>
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<p>As a result, the officers were justified in using force to detain him, and the &#8220;officers were entitled to take Raissi&#8217;s handgun because they knew Raissi had concealed it on his person and would have easy access to it while they questioned him.&#8221;    The officers were also entitled to ask him for his social security number and transport him to a locked area out of the public view.</p>
<p>This makes carrying a handgun openly different from carrying concealed, as the officers seeing an open handgun bear the burden of having a reasonable suspicion that the person carrying openly does not have a firearms license.  Carrying openly on MARTA under this court&#8217;s ruling, however, would still subject one to detention and disarmament, since boarding the MARTA system requires a license as an &#8220;affirmative defense,&#8221; and not as an &#8220;element of the crime.&#8221; &#8211; [<a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-5619-Atlanta-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m12d15-Federal-judge-rules-concealed-carry-is-probable-cause-of-criminal-activity" target="_blank">source</a>]</p>
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